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	<title>Comments on: American and Canadian Researchers: Trust Us, Inexpensive Cancer Screenings Are Bad for You</title>
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		<title>By: Catherine Favazza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine Favazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Thank you so much for your thoughtful comments, Mark. I should have expected the media would twist this in a way that makes headlines and read the findings of the study in full for myself. I will correct that now, and encourage others to read the full report.

Thank you for the work you do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Thank you so much for your thoughtful comments, Mark. I should have expected the media would twist this in a way that makes headlines and read the findings of the study in full for myself. I will correct that now, and encourage others to read the full report.</p>
<p>Thank you for the work you do!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Goldstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catherine

your commentary was forwarded to me by a colleague from the National Cancer Institute who is aware of our work on breast cancer detection and was incensed about the erroneous conclusions drawn from press reports of the recent Canadian study. 

Your observations on cost and effectiveness are correct

This large Canadian study by Ciarelli  and her colleagues (and prior ones) finds a significant increase in detection when using both procedures rather than mammography alone - They state : 

&quot;Roughly 7.5 cancers were detected per 1000 women with breast exam and mammography compared with 5.4 cancers without breast exam.&quot; 
 
and 

&quot;Breast cancer detection rates were higher in mammography centers that offered clinical breast examination in addition to mammography, Chiarelli and colleagues found.

As usual many press reports played down the major finding and instead elected to warn women that feeling lumps is likely to increase false positives. (I presume this is because most journalists subscribe to the mantra: If it dont bleed it don&#039;t lead.) 

Of course, without training both mammograms and clinical breast exams miss real cancers and increase attention to non-cancerous lesions. 

It is also true that most breast cancer are discovered by hand and usually the woman&#039;s. 

references at:  http://www.mammacare.com/news.php

All primary screening for breast caner depends entirely on   the human sensory skill whether its professional eyes searching a black and white mammogram (X-Ray) or fingers searching a breast for suspicious lumps. 

It is not surprising that the major finding of the study was that  both senses are required. But without skill-based training and practice neither is reliable.  

MK Goldstein, Ph.D.
Senior Scientist
The MammaCare Foundation 
and www.mammacare.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine</p>
<p>your commentary was forwarded to me by a colleague from the National Cancer Institute who is aware of our work on breast cancer detection and was incensed about the erroneous conclusions drawn from press reports of the recent Canadian study. </p>
<p>Your observations on cost and effectiveness are correct</p>
<p>This large Canadian study by Ciarelli  and her colleagues (and prior ones) finds a significant increase in detection when using both procedures rather than mammography alone &#8211; They state : </p>
<p>&#8220;Roughly 7.5 cancers were detected per 1000 women with breast exam and mammography compared with 5.4 cancers without breast exam.&#8221; </p>
<p>and </p>
<p>&#8220;Breast cancer detection rates were higher in mammography centers that offered clinical breast examination in addition to mammography, Chiarelli and colleagues found.</p>
<p>As usual many press reports played down the major finding and instead elected to warn women that feeling lumps is likely to increase false positives. (I presume this is because most journalists subscribe to the mantra: If it dont bleed it don&#8217;t lead.) </p>
<p>Of course, without training both mammograms and clinical breast exams miss real cancers and increase attention to non-cancerous lesions. </p>
<p>It is also true that most breast cancer are discovered by hand and usually the woman&#8217;s. </p>
<p>references at:  <a href="http://www.mammacare.com/news.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.mammacare.com/news.php</a></p>
<p>All primary screening for breast caner depends entirely on   the human sensory skill whether its professional eyes searching a black and white mammogram (X-Ray) or fingers searching a breast for suspicious lumps. </p>
<p>It is not surprising that the major finding of the study was that  both senses are required. But without skill-based training and practice neither is reliable.  </p>
<p>MK Goldstein, Ph.D.<br />
Senior Scientist<br />
The MammaCare Foundation<br />
and <a href="http://www.mammacare.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mammacare.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Catherine Favazza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine Favazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alice H: Wow. Thank you for your comment! You said just what I was thinking, but from a much more powerful and authoritative perspective. I hope our government has that attitude if they meddle in health care more, but I fear that won&#039;t be the case.

bookwomanblue: I&#039;m with you. I first heard about this on the news with Charles Gibson tonight. I hope young people watching over dinner weren&#039;t paying attention. :-/

Thank you both!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alice H: Wow. Thank you for your comment! You said just what I was thinking, but from a much more powerful and authoritative perspective. I hope our government has that attitude if they meddle in health care more, but I fear that won&#8217;t be the case.</p>
<p>bookwomanblue: I&#8217;m with you. I first heard about this on the news with Charles Gibson tonight. I hope young people watching over dinner weren&#8217;t paying attention. :-/</p>
<p>Thank you both!</p>
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		<title>By: Alice H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having had a false positive on a breast exam that resulted in my doctor prescribing hundreds (maybe thousands, I&#039;m not even sure) of dollars worth of tests and about a month of anxiety, I think I can speak on this.  I&#039;d gladly go through it all again to rule out the possibility of cancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having had a false positive on a breast exam that resulted in my doctor prescribing hundreds (maybe thousands, I&#8217;m not even sure) of dollars worth of tests and about a month of anxiety, I think I can speak on this.  I&#8217;d gladly go through it all again to rule out the possibility of cancer.</p>
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		<title>By: bookwomanblue</title>
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		<dc:creator>bookwomanblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For years they&#039;ve been beating us over the head telling us to examine ourselves and get regular medical examinations. Now, it isn&#039;t worth the time or effort? Yes, this is VERY convenient timing. What a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For years they&#8217;ve been beating us over the head telling us to examine ourselves and get regular medical examinations. Now, it isn&#8217;t worth the time or effort? Yes, this is VERY convenient timing. What a crock.</p>
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